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[Mike from NY]

Does anybody find it to be completely hypocritical the way that some people judge Amy? When you look at the history of the music industry there are tons of people who did just as much drugs as she does but for some reason it is a huge deal when she does it.

I remember when she won all those grammies a coworker of mine was ranting about how it is wrong to award such a bad role model and how she didn't deserve them. This past week she was talking about how great Woodstock was and how she wishes music was still like that. What does she think people were doing at Woodstock?

A cousin of mine despises her for being a drug addict yet he is a huge Guns N Roses fan. All members of that band have been involved with drugs at one point plus Axl Rose jumped into the audience to attack fans on multiple occasions. They were just as bad if not worse than Amy during their prime.

There are other examples but I am sick of this double standard from people. If you don't like her than fine but don't all of a sudden catch amnesia about many musical icons from the past.

[kylakoolie]

People are more forgiving of the people that they like.

[pearljo]

THIS, THIS THING IS ALL FUCKED UP.I either ignore those types(most of the time)or if I'm feeling funky, I'll take their ass down.
My brother, who knows I love Amy, just went off on her one day saying he could not find ONE thing attractive about her and he went on and on and on!!!

My brother has been tone deaf as far back as I can remember. Case closed.

Sly Stone(love him) One child grows up to be, someone you just love to learn, yeah

And, another child grows up to be, someone you just
love to burn.

It's a famiy affair.

What was the subject?

I didn't say much to my brother but I thought to myself...I'm driving them 2 n a huge SUV..they have their space,

Amy starts gabbing and he's cracking up at her stories and candor.

Soon, almost in her whisper, she sings LIALG. He gets a woodie, I gets a woodie.

The next day, walking up to his crib, I hear him trying for those note on B2B.

I knew I'd never get him, but Amy breathing down his neck, would.

Edited by pearljo, 18 August 2009 - 09:59 AM.
I'M AN EDITOR?

[DontClipMyWings]

Does anybody find it to be completely hypocritical the way that some people judge Amy? When you look at the history of the music industry there are tons of people who did just as much drugs as she does but for some reason it is a huge deal when she does it.

I remember when she won all those grammies a coworker of mine was ranting about how it is wrong to award such a bad role model and how she didn't deserve them. This past week she was talking about how great Woodstock was and how she wishes music was still like that. What does she think people were doing at Woodstock?

A cousin of mine despises her for being a drug addict yet he is a huge Guns N Roses fan. All members of that band have been involved with drugs at one point plus Axl Rose jumped into the audience to attack fans on multiple occasions. They were just as bad if not worse than Amy during their prime.

There are other examples but I am sick of this double standard from people. If you don't like her than fine but don't all of a sudden catch amnesia about many musical icons from the past.

Exactly, my band members always say stuff like 'oh yeah amy the crack head' but one of them practically wants to be pete doherty and im just like, look at your idol hes just as bad. Sometimes i think its because shes a woman then i think about janis joplin, blondie etc i think times have just changed, the 60's were all about drug use, rock and roll is based on drug use people just love to have someone to hate its ridiculous, because the newspapers ridicule amy, the public like to aswell, its similar to bullies, they need someone to take the piss out of to cover their own insecurities.

[suestev07]

There are more people now that unfortunately know a little bit of distorted info about a lot of things....there is no balance...

It's the times...the new media...the 24/7 access by way of millions of cellphone cameras taking vids that weren't possible before...the instant transmission of all this...

And, never have so many untruths, exaggerations, and one dimensional stories been told, by certain media, that have gone around the world in the blink of an eye...and it feeds on itself..., especially when it gets picked up by so-called good media as "fact"

...and you know what they say about "a lie told often enough becomes the truth"

as DCMW said: "people just love to have someone to hate"

And, of course, the media get away with more and more now because they can ...why?...more liberal laws?, less backbone to change old laws? idk

[WinehouseFAN08]

People dont put their selves in the situation. How would they feel being called all those names by such a large amount of the public. They's feel like S H I T .

[pearljo]

Follow the money, and Amy is a cash cow. The Sun's, the gag, Perez Hilton's of the world would sell their parents out for a quick buck.

[Alan48]

seems like lately there's more love & less hate in youtube comments:

(22,090,440 views! i remember when it hit 1,000,000)

[kevd7]

stating the obvious I know...we continue to live in a sexist world where women are still getting the short end of the stick...i secretly thought Amy was the counterpart to Keith Richards there for a while, missing tooth and all the rest. he didn't miss gigs though, i don't think. and i certainly don't remember any vitriol directed against him or any of the other druggie rock gods the way people have gone after Amy. it's a fucked up world with the attitudes that prevail about women regarding what they should and shouldn't do, how they should act etc. it's fucked

plus, its all too easy to judge when you haven't walked in anybody else's shoes

Edited by kevd7, 19 August 2009 - 02:21 AM.

[Winehousedrunk]

seems like lately there's more love & less hate in youtube comments:

(22,090,440 views! i remember when it hit 1,000,000)

22 million is an incredible number! I hadn't noticed before. I couldn't watch the whole clip, as she's dangerously sexy in it. Got to watch my health too. Recent comments are indeed overwhelmingly positive, and I'm glad that she's so very much loved and defended. The ignorant should learn to judge people who actually destroy the planet, destroy the lives of others, and condemn THEM, for a change. Now that WOULD be a big difference, and MAKE a big difference! Before hell freezes over would be a nice time for it.

[amyfanatic]

I remember when she won all those grammies a coworker of mine was ranting about how it is wrong to award such a bad role model and how she didn't deserve them. This past week she was talking about how great Woodstock was and how she wishes music was still like that. What does she think people were doing at Woodstock?

Reminds me of something i read lately:

In many years past, I was taken aback and astounded at the incredulous decision to give Kim Carnes the top award for 'Betty Davis Eyes' over the award winning (how ironic) Winelight album featured song, 'Just the Two of Us'. I have never been so mad as that example of poor taste in award giving. So, it seems, do many people share my emotion of yesterday with their criticism of Winehouse's selection today. Things have a way of evening out over the years as I am quite happy for Amy. There is no question in my mind that she has demonstrated a superb and unique talent as a singer (that unfortunately has deteriorated in 2 to 3 short years due to drugs), an opinion which can be substantiated by looking at her youTube video of 'Teach Me Tonight' from 2005. I cannot imagine a 21 year old Ella, Billie Holiday, or any top jazz songstress at the beginning of their career singing that song as great as she did in front of a generic and somewhat 'wet behind the ears' big band. This is the foundation for admiration and adulation of Amy by her non-pop fans. (Did Kim Carnes even have older purist non-pop fans?)

The fact that she has deteriorated before our very eyes makes us witnesses to an ongoing tragedy. But something tells me that the voters for the Grammy awards did their 'Hollywood thing' by throwing their support to her after she finally took the ironic step to go to Rehab. That alone gives us all some hope and theoretically should provide tangible incentive for her to try as hard as she can to succeed. Had she continued to snub any rehab for herself (and as a consequence, lose alot of money for and punish all of the talented musicians in her entourage dependent on her staying sober), then I think we might have seen the award go to someone else. This was the music establishment enforcing the concept that 'charity begins at home'.

If Amy Winehouse ever recreates her 'Teach Me Tonight' phase and works on it further, these awards will have validated the impact and meaning of the Grammies by virtue of having rebirthed a dying talent. I hope she turns her back on drugs so we can all see her further develop what she has already been able to accomplish just a few short years ago.
Chazz Neilson in Texas

I just find it frustrating. Their "lollywood thing"?>:-) Have they even listened to her album?

[pearljo]

Kim Karnes, holy shit what a piece of crap voice matched with a piece of crap song.

No wonder I did so many drugs back then.

[Winehousedrunk]

I just find it frustrating. Their "lollywood thing"?>:-) Have they even listened to her album?

That Chaz from Texas clearly means well, adores Amy or at least admires her talent, but it is a strange, rather outlandish claim that the Grammy Awards would be responsible for "rebirthing" her talent. Quite some Americans may think that first contact with the aliens will happen in the US desert as a matter of course, and we who live in the rest of the world would then say that that is an absolutely silly assumption.;-)

Edited by Winehousedrunk, 19 August 2009 - 12:24 PM.