Jump to content


Photo
* * * * * 3 votes

Amy Winehouse Movie

cannes doc documentary film movie

  • Please log in to reply
1324 replies to this topic

#676 Uno

Uno

    It's bricked up in my head

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,920 posts

Posted 03 July 2015 - 08:37 AM

Anatomy of a Scene | 'Amy', a video clip on the New York Times website ...

Asif Kapadia talks about Amy in Chung King Studio with Mark, there's also more unseen footage of Amy singing Back to Black in this clip :)

Scroll down the page a little bit ...
http://www.nytimes.c...ction.html?_r=0


  • Birdieava, Hanna, HelloSailor and 1 other like this
Amy, if you are up there listening, thank you for sharing the incredible soundtracks of your life ...

#677 SarahMermaid

SarahMermaid

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 368 posts
  • LocationUK

Posted 03 July 2015 - 09:28 PM

**spoilers**** OK. Just got back from seeing it. We arrived 15 minutes early for the showing and they had already started it!!! I was furious!!  Got up and complained (along with a few others who had just arrived). Luckily they realised the mistake and stopped it, waited until everyone had arrived before restarting it. Phew! 

It was very good and very sad.

Highlights for me were;

1. Lauren, Juliette and Nick's interviews.  

2. The clean mic of "we're still friends".

3. Back to Black recording footage.

4. Different version of like smoke with what sounded like more lyrics. 

5. Amy reciting "you only hurt the ones you love" lyrics.

6. Amy's mum's honestly. I can't actually believe that she and Mitch didn't take Amy's bulimia seriously. 

The two hours really flew in. I think they did well squeezing in all the important stuff. Can't wait for the dvd extras. :) 
 


  • pearljo, Sassy, Birdieava and 3 others like this

#678 amy_addicted

amy_addicted

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 95 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:59 AM

This morning on ITV... Mitch explains their discontent with the film

TV Spot for the film :) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4JByD3wRM


  • catpuss likes this

#679 Ace of Hearts

Ace of Hearts

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 219 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:20 AM

They ask "with hindsight would you have done anything different" and Mitch's reply is categorically and a resounding "No".

What a foolish man.

Anyone with a shred of self awareness who undergoes contemplation after any devastating event always highlights at least one thing they may have done that may not have helped the situation. This interview shows that it is not about Amy at all. It's an exercise in arse covering by Mitch.

What a shame.
  • Tara, pearljo, Birdieava and 6 others like this

#680 crol

crol

    i'm not ashamed, but the guilt will kill you

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,113 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:36 AM

Why on earth would the film need to mention the foundation? It's a very honourable cause, but it's Mitch's brainchild, not Amy's. As far as I can recall, the film is about Amy, not Mitch.

 

Also, I do wonder why Asif didn't include Reg in the film. Perhaps he genuinely didn't have much to say of interest, or maybe Asif felt he wasn't being totally honest. I always felt Mitch made such a big deal out of their relationship, to the point that now Reg is referred to as her fiance when they weren't even engaged. They weren't even living together.

 

I'm sure Reg and Amy were in a loving relationship but I wonder if by that stage Amy was too far gone in herself to get back on track. The film is about Amy, and why things ended the way they did, and perhaps Reg just didn't play a big part in the overall picture.


  • Tara, pearljo, Sassy and 9 others like this

#681 HelloSailor

HelloSailor

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 11:36 AM

You hit it on the nail Crol !  This film is about Amy right up intil her death, that's why The Foundation doesn't feature in the documentary.

 

It is shocking to hear Mitch says he wouldn't have done anything differently with hindsight. There is always something you feel you could've done differently. He's just so concentrated on himself!

 

You now what? Let him and Reg make their own movie about Amy. Maybe we'll get to see new footage of her! They will try to re-write the last 3 years of her life, Mitch has been doing that from the start. His banging on about Amy being "clean (of drugs)" for the last 3 years is dangerous in my opinion, because it could be equated with her being free of addiction! Which she clearly wasn't. She was a shopping addict, a sport addict, and seemed to be becoming a plastic surgery addict. Oh, and an alcoholic of course!

I haven't seent he film yet, and maybe the last 3 years of her life as portrayed by Asif Kapadia are lop-sided. But the narrative Micth keeps giving us doesn't add up either. Healthy, happy people, don't drink themselves to death!


  • Sassy, catpuss and inwinoveritas like this

#682 HelloSailor

HelloSailor

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 11:49 AM

I think I've posted this article before, but I find it very interesting. Basically it says we shouldn't shun addicts, because given the choice to take drugs or not, those individuals who are isolated will rely on drugs, and those that evolve in a happy social environment will use them a lot less. http://www.huffingto..._b_6506936.html

 

 

Human beings are bonding animals. We need to connect and love. The wisest sentence of the twentieth century was E.M. Forster's -- "only connect." But we have created an environment and a culture that cut us off from connection, or offer only the parody of it offered by the Internet. The rise of addiction is a symptom of a deeper sickness in the way we live -- constantly directing our gaze towards the next shiny object we should buy, rather than the human beings all around us.

 

Based on that understanding of addiction, maybe some of those close to Amy were wrong to subject her to the tough-love approach.

 

But that doesn't make Micth right. Yeah, he stood by her, but him and others obviously failed to see that she was still very lonely, for whatever reason (losing Blake, the media hounding, the fear of coming up with a 3rd album to top B2B, the impossibility of having children because of her bullemia, etc...).

 

I refuse to buy the narrative that she was happy in the last 3 years of her life. I know I'm going on, but it is simply incompatible with the misery she was clearly trying to drown away. 


  • pearljo, Sassy and Birdieava like this

#683 WhoDat

WhoDat

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 315 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:34 PM

Mitch is deluded and is in absolute denial. He knows that if he looks the situation right in the face, he'll have to confront the fact that he made mistakes and he wasn't the perfect, doting father he'd like everyone else to believe he was. This is why he continues to pin the blame on anyone and everyone else. He has a total aversion to the truth, and to be honest, I think he'll probably continue lying to himself for a long while yet. Coming to terms with the death of a child is difficult, and that process is made even more difficult if you know deep down that your role in their life was not always a positive one. Nobody likes to admit that they may not have done enough for their loved ones or that they might have even done things that contributed to their problems, but Mitch's attempts to whitewash Amy's story in order to paint himself as perfect is so dishonest and really does a disservice to Amy's memory. It's really a shame that he still seems to determined to be the architect of Amy's narrative, even after she has passed.


  • pearljo, Sassy, Uno and 5 others like this
"They laughed when I said I was going to become a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now." - Bob Monkhouse

#684 WhoDat

WhoDat

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 315 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 06:09 PM

Interview with Asif Kapadia done by Simon Mayo for the BBC:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=XewUCfAAjwo

 

Review of the film by Mark Kermode for the BBC, a well-respected journalist in the UK:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=IJGqFDqt3-o


  • catpuss and King Marty like this
"They laughed when I said I was going to become a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now." - Bob Monkhouse

#685 HelloSailor

HelloSailor

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:00 PM

You know, Mitch goes on to explain to whomever will listen that he had Amy's consent to bring that film crew to St Lucia... but let's not forget that

 

a ) that was not his only attempt at filming her on her island retreat (Daphne Barak's documentray -- which he also shot down because he didn't like the picture she was painting)

 

and 

 

b ) Amy was pretty vocal on twitter about how she felt (jan. 2010) https://twitter.com/amyjademermaid

 

 

 

WHY don't my dad WRITE a SONG when somethin bothers him instead of going on national tv? an you thought YOUR parents were embarassing

 

So... me thinks Mitch should take a good long look in the mirror. I know it ain't easy, but it's the only way to move on...


  • pearljo, Sassy, catpuss and 2 others like this

#686 HelloSailor

HelloSailor

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:01 PM

PS : having not seen the film yet, I don't know whether Daphne Barak was mentioned by Asif.



#687 Poom

Poom

    My Own Best Friend

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 124 posts

Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:17 PM

Also, he called the St Lucia "documentary" My daughter Amy. Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't really strike me as a title for a doc "about the struggles of families facing addiction".


  • pearljo and Ace of Hearts like this

#688 mayday

mayday

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 355 posts

Posted 05 July 2015 - 12:49 AM

i need mr.kapadia to really shut mitch up, asif is insanely smart & well spoken and i wish he'd just tell mitch straight up, enough is enough.


  • Tara and dykehaze like this

#689 HelloSailor

HelloSailor

    I said, "No, No, No"

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 986 posts

Posted 05 July 2015 - 07:41 AM

Sorry if these have already been posted. To be honest, there's a new article about Amy every few days in the Guardian, kinda reminds me of when she was alive and there was always a story about her in the press/tabloids.

 

Why we're so confused about Amy Winehousehttp://www.theguardi...t-amy-winehouse

 

Winhouse, Austen, Kafka and Monet : why does the work of great artists get destroyed? http://www.theguardi...works-destroyed

 

What if Amy Winehosue had been left alone? http://www.theguardi...been-left-alone


  • Birdieava, Ace of Hearts, SarahMermaid and 1 other like this

#690 mayday

mayday

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 355 posts

Posted 05 July 2015 - 10:43 PM

pretty interesting video..

 







Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: cannes, doc, documentary, film, movie

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users