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[WhoDat]

She didn't care for meetings. I was told she just thought she was too smart for them.
I have no idea about Tyler, truth is as somebody who lives in the U.S. I didn't know who he was until I read Mitch's book.
There are only 1 or 2 people I know who really tried to shake her at her foundation to get her out and about meeting other people with alcoholism/ addiction issues. She had a lot of people really close to her that were sober but didn't have a good grasp on their own program yet either.
I heard a lot of people talking about bad timing..
Is it ever good timing when it comes to a disease?

Also, there's only so much you can say to someone. Change has to come from within, and usually trying to push someone into something just makes them more defiant. The person has to want it for themselves before they can be really helped. It can be hard for people who don't have problems to really understand someone who does too. I wouldn't blame anyone for not intervening sooner. It can be very difficult to deal with people who have addiction issues. It's hard to know what to say or do because you don't want to be that person who is trying to control someone else, and there's a fine line between being judgemental and being supportive, which can be hard to walk sometimes. Also, where do you begin with staging an intervention anyway? It's a difficult one.

[BeehiveQueen]

You know the saying that you have to get really uncomfortable before you change.
Truth is I just don't know how uncomfortable she was.
Nobody does.

[Uno]

I just finished the book by Howard Sounes and did get a few answers to questions that I've always wondered about with Belgrade and the time leading up to it ...

The first being, what went on before they took to the stage in Belgrade. Did they know about her condition or was she in a private dressing room by herself and they didn't know until she was hitting the stage. This excerpt is from an interview with (drummer) Troy...

She was out of her head by show time. ‘People were coming into our dressing room [saying], “We need coffee … We need strong coffee,”’ says Troy Miller, who reveals that by then Amy didn’t want to perform. ‘The management and friends were trying to encourage her to go on.’ That was a grave mistake. But 20,000 people were yelling Amy’s name


And the second, it sounds as if he family did actually try to have an intervention type thing happen which resulted with Amy going into rehab that last time at the end of May. A few excerpts from an interview with Reg...

on the morning of 25 May 2011 family members, including Mitch Winehouse and Amy’s aunt Melody (Mitch’s sister), Reg Traviss and a doctor, assembled at Camden Square to confront Amy with her behaviour and tried to persuade her to go to the Priory Clinic for therapy.

Amy was angry and abusive. The argument went on for hours, while a driver waited outside to take her away.
Finally, around lunchtime, Amy capitulated. ‘All right, fine,’ she said. ‘If you want me to go, I’ll go.’

So, it really wasn't her decision to get cleaned up for that series of concerts. They really should have put a stop to those shows right then and there.

[dykehaze]

So, it really wasn't her decision to get cleaned up for that series of concerts. They really should have put a stop to those shows right then and there.[/QUOTE]

Amen!

[HelloSailor]

She was out of her head by show time. ‘People were coming into our dressing room [saying], “We need coffee … We need strong coffee,”’ says Troy Miller, who reveals that by then Amy didn’t want to perform. ‘The management and friends were trying to encourage her to go on.’ That was a grave mistake. But 20,000 people were yelling Amy’s name.

It was a grave mistake indeed. Her management and friends, who were the sober ones, believed they knew what was best for her because she was off her face. Unfortunately they were wrong. I can understand that she performed many times drunk, and maybe they thought she could pull it off once more. Did the Belgrade show start later than planned? How long?