Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Has anyone else avoided watching Belgrade?


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 MingusMonk&Amy

MingusMonk&Amy

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 776 posts
  • LocationSweden

Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:37 PM

I didn't watch it in 2011 and I still haven't. I've only seen the parts which are featured in the AMY doc when I saw it in theater (when I rewatch it at home I always close my eyes during the last part). I have the videos in my Amy Archive but I'm pretty sure I'll never watch them.


  • Gorejuice, jasur-aka and Jamesreato like this

#2 Tanqueray

Tanqueray

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 76 posts
  • LocationBerkshire, England

Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:15 PM

I’ve only watched a few bits and pieces from videos that are on YouTube or have appeared on various Instagram and Facebook pages. I very rarely watch them all the way through as I find them too sad and upsetting.
  • MingusMonk&Amy likes this

#3 xDetachmentx

xDetachmentx

    We both know what it is

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 242 posts

Posted 10 May 2019 - 01:18 AM

I've watched it twice, cried both times. She seems so resigned, and Zalon was basically her only comfort. The rest of the band, aside from Ade, seemed just fine letting her be like that on stage.


  • MingusMonk&Amy likes this

#4 MingusMonk&Amy

MingusMonk&Amy

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 776 posts
  • LocationSweden

Posted 10 May 2019 - 03:28 PM

Thanks. It feels like I will regret it if I watch it so I won't. She could always rely on Zalon. I love their interactions on stage. Such a great guy!

 

I was a huge Marilyn Monroe fan as a kid (I still am). One day I accidentally stumbled over that published morgue photo of her. I took me years to get that picture out of my head. Thankfully it's completely gone now, but I don't want to go through that experience again. It feels like Belgrade might be something similar. That picture should never have been published. So disrespectful to both Marilyn and her fans.

 

The saddest Amy gig I've seen is Rock in Rio May 2008, where she's basically lost her voice. No other artist would have been allowed on stage in that state. What's wrong with Ray Cosbert? It's like the guys who exploited Judy Garland.


  • xDetachmentx and Gorejuice like this

#5 WhoDat

WhoDat

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 315 posts

Posted 11 May 2019 - 02:45 PM

No, was never able to watch it. I've seen clips here and there, but the whole thing just looks so painful and something that should never have been allowed to happen, so I could never watch it in its entirety.

 

Incidentally, I feel the same about a lot of her live performances towards the end of her life. The Bestival performance is equally painful, in my opinion. There are some beautiful moments in that performance, but it really is like watching a tormented person being forced to relive awful experiences in front of thousands of people, which of course is exactly what it was.

 

So much about the final years of Amy's life are truly disturbing on many levels. She should never have been put through the things she was put through professionally while her personal life was so out of control. I don't think it would be allowed to happen today.


  • MingusMonk&Amy likes this
"They laughed when I said I was going to become a comedian. Well, they're not laughing now." - Bob Monkhouse

#6 MingusMonk&Amy

MingusMonk&Amy

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 776 posts
  • LocationSweden

Posted 11 May 2019 - 07:30 PM

@WhoDat beautifully put. I'm positive that her career would have been handled more compassionately if Nick Shymansky had remained at the helm - with Amy's well-being as the primary concern, not money. I don't believe for a second that Shymansky would have allowed her to go through a life performance if she was not feeling well.  Cosbert on the other hand...


  • WhoDat and Gorejuice like this

#7 Gorejuice

Gorejuice

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 144 posts
  • LocationUnited States

Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:39 AM

It is still so crazy to me that Belgrade is the way it is. Why in the bloody hell wasn't she pulled off stage within the first ten minutes?!

THEY ALLOWED THE SHOW TO GO ON FOR A BLOODY FUCKING HOUR!

Excuse my language, but seriously?! Everyone just allowed it to continue for so long. Like, it looked like she was begging the band to stop, or take her away, or something. And even if she wasn't, why didn't they stop fricking playing and all walk her off. No one saved her. And really, if not for her, for themselves. It had to be embarrassing and awkward. I hate thinking of it that way, but realistically ....I just don't get it. It makes no sense whatsoever why it wasn't shut down. This is the kinda shit that makes me think about conspiracy's and shit because it's so bloody unbelievable that no one did a thing.
  • xDetachmentx likes this

#8 xDetachmentx

xDetachmentx

    We both know what it is

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 242 posts

Posted 19 May 2019 - 09:15 AM

How most of the band members could carry on smiling like that is beyond me. The show must go on I guess, even if it means watching a woman die on stage.


  • Gorejuice likes this

#9 Gorejuice

Gorejuice

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 144 posts
  • LocationUnited States

Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:37 AM

How most of the band members could carry on smiling like that is beyond me. The show must go on I guess, even if it means watching a woman die on stage.



Right???
I still can't believe it. Seemingly as how Zalon especially had her best interest at heart. I feel like they were probably under a bunch of pressure or contract or something, seems to be the only way they could continue on as if nothing was wrong . I feel like they were all under pressure, conspiracy theory as it sounds but it doesn't seem that far fetched.

#10 MingusMonk&Amy

MingusMonk&Amy

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 776 posts
  • LocationSweden

Posted 23 May 2019 - 09:03 PM

This is obviously not the only Amy gig that never should have taken place. Something must have been fundamentally wrong with her management. There are so many sad examples in Amy's career where a normal compassionate management would've have canceled right away without caring about financial loss, because that is what this is all about, isn't it. Money. What else could it be?

As I said I haven't seen the videos,but I recall Zalon mentioning in a Youtube comment that the bandmembers were not smiling, even though it looked that way. It's very confusing because all the members of her band seems like good-natured guys.

 

To add something positive to this thread I have to say, from the pictures I've seen, that Amy looked really beautiful that day. But then again she almost always did.

 

This topic went into a different direction...



#11 TakeTheBox03

TakeTheBox03

    Simple Sweet Guitar, Humbled By The Bass

  • Moderators
  • 576 posts
  • LocationBirmingham, AL

Posted 29 December 2023 - 02:03 AM

I watched it and almost cried, but at moments i thought amy was just kidding and was gonna break out any second and be like "Stupid Bitches Really Thought I Was Drunk" i was also saying, cmon amy, you can do it. One of the best singers ive seen sing better than a broken record while drunk


I was hit by a car once on my bike, but I still rode home. - AJW


#12 MingusMonk&Amy

MingusMonk&Amy

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 776 posts
  • LocationSweden

Posted 29 December 2023 - 02:32 AM

Five years later and I still haven't watched it. Still watch last part of the AMY documentary with eyes closed.


  • TakeTheBox03 likes this

#13 milobax

milobax

    memories mar my mind

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 62 posts
  • LocationUnited States

Posted 05 January 2024 - 12:29 AM

Can't watch it either or frankly any performances in the 2010/2011 time period (controversial to say this on an Amy forum, I know). She wasn't inspired by the BTB music anymore; it looked like each performance pained her. The Belgrade performance is especially tough.


  • ivycherrywine and TakeTheBox03 like this

#14 loveAMYforever

loveAMYforever

    andnowthefinalframe

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 94 posts
  • LocationGermany

Posted 16 January 2024 - 03:42 PM

Sorry, I'll just introduce myself here before I post anything. Been reading for a long time, but never had the courage to write anything. But I'm still very interested in Amy and her short life and maybe I can contribute something here. You helped me at the time of her death, thank you very much for that.
About Belgrade: I even saw the concert several times to understand what happened. I didn't succeed. After Tyler James' book it became a little clearer, Amy didn't want to perform, she said so clearly, but the management probably didn't care. They thought, as with some performances, let it go. Leaving Amy on stage in that condition was already bodily harm, she didn't even know where she was. If I had been there as a friend, I would have dragged her off the stage by any means possible. She was happy to see her band but that was about it. And how could Dave Davies keep smiling, it makes me so angry. To see someone destroy themselves and keep smiling. For me Raye Cosbert is clearly responsible, he was her manager and he knew how she was doing in the hotel, Tyler said that quite openly. Amy's tragedy is evident here, she simply had a lot of people around her who only looked at the money and unfortunately she wasn't healthy enough to recognize that herself. And so I see Belgrade not as a disgrace on Amy's part, but as one on her management's part. The two Nicks would never have let it get this far.

  • ivycherrywine and TakeTheBox03 like this




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users