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[galadriel_21]

Probably talked about before, but because she's kind of a controversial figure, I wonder if she's caused any animosity between you guys and people you know

 

My family thinks she is a bad influence on me (even though she's deceased) due to my strong interest in her. My dad refused to watch Amy (2015) with me, but yesterday I caught him watching it on his computer and playing her music afterwards. Weirdly. I wonder why he did that, perhaps if he's trying to understand me better because we don't get along. I can't imagine why he would wanna watch that unless he was thinking of me. Sorry, weird anecdote. 

[AmyWinehouse9and14]

 I think it's best to keep your feet on the ground. To me, Amy was a superb artist but a fool with her lifestyle choices and things should be seen  as they were. If anything, her bad lifestyle choices are things to avoid at all costs, but as an artist, I think she deserves all the praise she gets. She died under horrible circumstances, she didn't have kids and isn't enjoying life as she could have nor has she done any more great music due to drinking herself to death at the age of just 27. I'm a huge Elvis fan and in a live interview he once said "The image is one thing and the human being is another." and I think that's true but again with Elvis great entertainer but a fool with his lifestyle choices.

[galadriel_21]

 I think it's best to keep your feet on the ground. To me, Amy was a superb artist but a fool with her lifestyle choices and things should be seen  as they were. If anything, her bad lifestyle choices are things to avoid at all costs, but as an artist, I think she deserves all the praise she gets. She died under horrible circumstances, she didn't have kids and isn't enjoying life as she could have nor has she done any more great music due to drinking herself to death at the age of just 27. I'm a huge Elvis fan and in a live interview he once said "The image is one thing and the human being is another." and I think that's true but again with Elvis great entertainer but a fool with his lifestyle choices.

I agree, unfortunately I am emotionally reliant on alcohol atm, warranting my family's disapproval to be honest. I feel mostly out of control and wonder how hard it was to be Amy too

[Backfrankblack1]

I dont get why people say that Amy is a bad influence. Amy never showed her goddaughter Dionne drugs and she steered her away from drugs. Dionne says this all the time. Younger people that briefly lived with Amy said this as well. Contrary to popular belief,Amy was actually responsible when it came to those type of things. Also,95 percent of artists did drugs or drank. So we shouldnt listen to anybody who does music according to other people. The worse role model was Kurt Cobain even though i am a fan. He used to do drugs in front of his daughter and his daughter became a drug addict. It's a good thing she stopped.

[galadriel_21]

I dont get why people say that Amy is a bad influence. Amy never showed her goddaughter Dionne drugs and she steered her away from drugs. Dionne says this all the time. Younger people that briefly lived with Amy said this as well. Contrary to popular belief,Amy was actually responible when it came to those type of things. Also,95 percent of artists did drugs or drank. So we shouldnt listen to anybody who does music according to other people. The worse role model was Kurt Cobain even though i am a fan. He used to do drugs in front of his daughter and his daughter became a drug addict. It's a good thing she stopped.

I love Kurt, he was a severely tortured person. In spite of all his flaws

[AmyWinehouse9and14]

I agree, unfortunately I am emotionally reliant on alcohol atm, warranting my family's disapproval to be honest. I feel mostly out of control and wonder how hard it was to be Amy too

You're a long time dead so don't go down the drink or drugs route it's not worth it.You could end up years in and out of rehabs,get cirrhosis of the liver,loose friends and have nothing but trouble and just all for alcohol .It's depressant, it'll give you a short term buzz followed by a downer and you'll drink more and more just to blot things out and eventually the drink controls you. You're still young quit now while you can don't end up like Amy use her as a reason not to drink.

[pinkismyfavoritecrayon]

If we're just talking about her music only; it's the latter. Her as a person, very controversial. Everything else has been said already, I'm late to the party. Amy needed more friends like Tyler James and I definitely would have tried to be one of them if I knew her. I try (sometimes too hard) to understand why people are the way they are. And me and her share a lot of the same personal problems. It's creepy sometimes.

[pinkismyfavoritecrayon]

I dont get why people say that Amy is a bad influence. Amy never showed her goddaughter Dionne drugs and she steered her away from drugs. Dionne says this all the time. Younger people that briefly lived with Amy said this as well. Contrary to popular belief,Amy was actually responible when it came to those type of things. Also,95 percent of artists did drugs or drank. So we shouldnt listen to anybody who does music according to other people. The worse role model was Kurt Cobain even though i am a fan. He used to do drugs in front of his daughter and his daughter became a drug addict. It's a good thing she stopped.

He used to do drugs in front of his daughter and his daughter became a drug addict. It's a good thing she stopped.

Holy shit, what?? I'm not a Nirvana fan, I had no idea he was that bad. 

[Philip]

I think that Amy is just an example of people who are misunderstood. She wasn't a bad person, she was depressed and took the route of self destruction. I think Amy hated herself and this is what caused her troubles. I think Amy teaches us that fame and money really don't mean much if you're depressed and I truly believe that. If you don't stand up for yourself you'll simply end up the same way. People who say she's bad influence or whatever are just people who lack the emotional intellegence to understand why she acted the way she did.

[Backfrankblack1]

He used to do drugs in front of his daughter and his daughter became a drug addict. It's a good thing she stopped.

Holy shit, what?? I'm not a Nirvana fan, I had no idea he was that bad.

Yes. Theirs a video on youtube of Kurt holding his daughter while he was on heroine. It got so bad that his daughter was briefly taken away from him after only two weeks of his wife giving birth to their daughter. His daughter loves him but she doesnt refer to him as dad,she refers to him as Kurt. She resented him for years because he permanently abandoned her by purposely commiting suicide,but nowadays she has more empathy towards him and understands the situation. A lot of people don't mention that because he was a great artist but to me,that's way worse than what Amy used to do.

[pinkismyfavoritecrayon]

Yes. Theirs a video on youtube of Kurt holding his daughter while he was on heroine. It got so bad that his daughter was briefly taken away from him after only two weeks of his wife giving birth to their daughter. His daughter loves him but she doesnt refer to him as dad,she refers to him as Kurt. She resented him for years because he permanently abandoned her by purposely commiting suicide,but nowadays she has more empathy towards him and understands the situation. A lot of people don't mention that because he was a great artist but to me,that's way worse than what Amy used to do.

I don't blame her for that. He nearly destroyed her life, though I don't think he intended that. But I don't know him that well to have a valid opinion.

[galadriel_21]

I don't blame her for that. He nearly destroyed her life, though I don't think he intended that. But I don't know him that well to have a valid opinion.

I think C. Love has done infinite more damage to that family, to the point where Frances even got emancipated from her... and she abused the fuck out of Kurt. Physically, mentally, emotionally.

[divasdinosaursandemons]

Is this STILL an issue? The whole bad role model thing was a big deal back in like 2008-2011, but surely there are not still people worrying about Amy being a bad role model in 2024? You might as well be mad at the Beatles and their corrupt influence on the youth of today because of their long hair, or Queen being fascists because of One Vision or the Sex Pistols for swearing? 

 

I've not seen anyone come out with that crap in over a decade in any area, online, in person etc. No offense but I think sometimes fans because we are more sensitive to criticism of our favourite artist, we can tend to be a bit stuck in the past about them, as I don't know anyone who thinks that these days? 

 

Meanwhile to the person saying Amy was a fool, I take offense at that. Not trying to start a fight, but she was not a fool. She was someone who suffered from mental health problems which are a disease like any other. She died due the physical toll of them catching up with her. 

 

She was a very smart caring person in her private life and one that yes you can look up to in a number of ways, for her music and in other ways like her generosity. 

[divasdinosaursandemons]

If we're just talking about her music only; it's the latter. Her as a person, very controversial. Everything else has been said already, I'm late to the party. Amy needed more friends like Tyler James and I definitely would have tried to be one of them if I knew her. I try (sometimes too hard) to understand why people are the way they are. And me and her share a lot of the same personal problems. It's creepy sometimes.

I'm personally not as keen on Tyler anymore. Him writing a book about all of Amy's personal problems and betraying her family left a bad taste in my mouth. I know she'd have hated that book he wrote. 

 

Meanwhile I agree that the OP shouldn't drink, but I don't think they'd be doing it because of Amy. I hope they get better. Meanwhile she wasn't a controversial person. She was a fine person who had problems that sadly took her life. It's not like she was involved in a big political group or did anything horrible. 

[divasdinosaursandemons]

Oh sorry just to be clear I wasn't saying anyone here was an idiot for thinking that people still call Amy a bad role model. Sorry if it came over as a big condescending, I just meant that anyone who was actually saying she was and you shouldn't listen to her for that is painfully out of date.