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[MyRed&MyCherry]

I’ve read multiple accounts on when where and how Back To Black (the song) was written.

First Mark said that Amy went to a room with a pen and paper and wrote it out while they were in the studio.

Tyler says she wrote it on the kitchen floor of their flat and he didn’t like it.

Then Sam Shaker says “she wrote her famous Song ( Back to Black) in her VIP ROOM and she was CRYING” In a Facebook post.

Does anyone really know when or where Back To Black was written, or who to believe? Not that it matters but all of these different stories are very different from one another.

[loveAMYforever]

What I think is most likely is the idea that Amy wrote the song in her home. So it's more like Tyler's version. Mark Ronson certainly played his part, but I think he was more responsible for the sound. Sam Shaker was also one of her many "acquaintances" who suddenly mutated into Amy's closest friends. I think that was wishful thinking.

There's so much nonsense about Amy, desperate attempts to make some money. I actually found a table where someone claimed that Amy wrote Back to Black there. It was a huge marble table.

[amyinourhearts]

Sam Shaker uploaded (and he continues up to these days!) once a picture of Amy from 2009 stating that said picture was taken days before her death. Completely NONSENSE. Don't trust him at all.
As for Tyler and Mark Ronson, I guess each of them has their preferred version, maybe they are right, but there's no way to prove it meaning they can say whatever they want just to fill some pages or an interview.
BTW, I recommend you watch the video on YouTube from BBC Maestro in which Mark explains the story and plays some inedit snippets of the song.
As far as Amy goes, she was immensely talented. It doesn't surprise me the possibility that she wrote a classic like B2B within a day in a studio.

[loveAMYforever]

Thanks for the tip, I just saw it. The advantage with Amy was that she was lucky enough to work with 2 talented producers and the Dap-Kings. Nowadays there are so many producers who can only turn the knobs and don't know a single instrument. When you look at Ronson's recordings, you can see that something magical is happening. Unfortunately, Sharon Jones passed away in 2016.

[Sleepy_Walnut]

Irrespective of where it was written, it's an immense song. 

[loveAMYforever]

Yeah, for me the best song ever, and it is good that we dont know the truth- it is Amys secret

[pinkismyfavoritecrayon]

Yeah, for me the best song ever, and it is good that we dont know the truth- it is Amys secret

Sometimes things are best left to the imagination. I saw it as a song that came from tears and eventually wrote itself, similar to the writing process for "Rehab", because both are bleak songs. Back To Black is definitely one of the deepest songs on the album, and it became the album's title.

[loveAMYforever]

Yes, I agree with you. Although Amy is such a fascinating person and I would love to know everything about her, I'm glad there are still a few secrets. And the creation of the song was something she kept secret.

[Sleepy_Walnut]

Yeah, for me the best song ever, and it is good that we dont know the truth- it is Amys secret

 

Personally, my favourite is Love is a Losing Game. Absolutely love that track. The music is brilliant and the lyrics are just so raw.

 

Also love the lyrics to F Me Pumps too. 

[yourshadowcoversme914]

Personally, my favourite is Love is a Losing Game. Absolutely love that track. The music is brilliant and the lyrics are just so raw.

Also love the lyrics to F Me Pumps too.

I second that!

[Sleepy_Walnut]

Back to Black and Frank are both great albums, but there is always one thing that repeatedly crosses my mind about Amy though. A lot of her songs and music came from the troubles in her life,bad relationships and troublesome people......that's why the songs are so truthful, real and heartfelt. But it does make me wonder that if she hadn't of passed at such a young age, and had managed to avoid the lows again, would the music have been as good. 

 

Just makes me wonder which way the music would have gone....Would we have seen a better album, more Grammy's, more awards.... Would she still be going now in any way..

 

Sadly, we will never know.  But at least we have the music we have......and i wouldn't change that at all.

[loveAMYforever]

Yes, the making of the albums is bittersweet. And that's why they're albums that I can't really be happy about. Frank was still so energetic and hopeful. With BTB it was gone, her depression and her fears are so palpable that it's painful. I never understood the fans who cheered along to Rehab. Even today, certain songs make me cry. And since the Belgrade disaster (which I watched), her death was only a matter of time for me. That evening I felt like it was over. I just sat there, crying and cursing the screaming crowd as they yelled "Sing or I want my money back." The crowd didn't sing, they roared - that night Amy and her music died.

It would have been great to see Amy's professional development. What music would it have been? 

-old classics reinterpreted like “Fly me to the moon” 

-Jewish songs/albums for festivals 

- Super group with Questlove, it would definitely have helped her to perform with a group.

- supposedly she also experimented with reggae - but honestly - I can't imagine that with her. For me, reggae means a light attitude to life and hardly any drama. I don't even particularly like their album Lioness.

I love songs like “My Own Way”, “Detachment”, “Procrastination”. 

What comforts me is that Amy doesn't have to suffer anymore - maybe it all had to happen that way. And we as fans also have a lot of great performances and songs from her. This is something we can always keep.

[Sleepy_Walnut]

 

Yes, the making of the albums is bittersweet. And that's why they're albums that I can't really be happy about. Frank was still so energetic and hopeful. With BTB it was gone, her depression and her fears are so palpable that it's painful. I never understood the fans who cheered along to Rehab. Even today, certain songs make me cry. And since the Belgrade disaster (which I watched), her death was only a matter of time for me. That evening I felt like it was over. I just sat there, crying and cursing the screaming crowd as they yelled "Sing or I want my money back." The crowd didn't sing, they roared - that night Amy and her music died.

It would have been great to see Amy's professional development. What music would it have been? 

-old classics reinterpreted like “Fly me to the moon” 

-Jewish songs/albums for festivals 

- Super group with Questlove, it would definitely have helped her to perform with a group.

- supposedly she also experimented with reggae - but honestly - I can't imagine that with her. For me, reggae means a light attitude to life and hardly any drama. I don't even particularly like their album Lioness.

I love songs like “My Own Way”, “Detachment”, “Procrastination”. 

What comforts me is that Amy doesn't have to suffer anymore - maybe it all had to happen that way. And we as fans also have a lot of great performances and songs from her. This is something we can always keep.

 

 

 

Absolutely agree with a lot of that.... But the one thing, yes, she is no longer suffering. x

[Sleepy_Walnut]

“My Own Way”, “Detachment”, “Procrastination”. 

 

Not heard those tracks before.. Now listening to them.

[loveAMYforever]

It would have been so nice to see her blossom, to have children, to have a family where she would have been happy. But unfortunately she never found the partner with whom this would have been possible. That would have saved her - I'm convinced of that, and I can't understand why that didn't happen. I'm a woman, straight, but I immediately fell in love with Amy. She was a very special noble soul.

And about death - of course I said it that way because there is little positive about her death, but no one can hurt her anymore. I imagine it as floating energy that is all around us. 

She is now back together with Cynthia.