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[Jayne]

Name registration delays Amy Winehouse foundation

Amy Winehouse's father Mitch has said his plans to launch a foundation in his daughter's name have been delayed.

He said it's because the name 'The Amy Winehouse Foundation' has been registered by someone else.

"Somebody else pinched it off of us before we could get it registered," Mr Winehouse said.

"All these donations which are coming in - we don't know what to do with them at the moment."

Foundation plan

Mitch Winehouse explained that he has having to "hold off" on his plans "for the time being".

But he insisted it would still happen: "The plan is to help all children - not just rehabilitation, not just substance abuse. It's to help all children in need."

Continue reading the main story All these donations which are coming in - we don't know what to do with them at the moment

Amy's father had announced his plans to set up a foundation in his daughter's name at the singer's funeral in London on 27 July.

"If you cannot afford a private rehabilitation clinic, there is a two-year waiting list for help," he said at the time.

He added that the 27-year-old had "conquered" her drug addiction before her death but had been "trying hard to deal with her drinking".

Mr Winehouse was speaking outside the Home Office in central London (18 August) where he was meeting government officials where he was urging them to "reallocate" funding for young people dealing with addiction.

An inquest into Winehouse's death was opened and adjourned until 26 October.

The toxicology tests to determine the cause of the London singer's death were expected to be published within four weeks of her death.

She was found dead at her home in north London on 24 July.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/14582271

[Lainey]

I smell lawsuit for the cynical fucker that's done this...

Aren't there ways for organizations and corporations to legally take back domain names that others have registered without resorting to million-dollar payoffs?

This has got to be a really common occurrence, I would imagine. It only costs $10 for any chancer to register a domain name - hoping for a big pay day. You never hear about that pay day actually happening, do you? I really have no idea about the legalities, though....

[SoulShadow]

Aren't there ways for organizations and corporations to legally take back domain names that others have registered without resorting to million-dollar payoffs?

For domain names, you have to start a dispute with WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organiziation). If this could apply to foundation names, I am not sure.

Although it would take some money to fight this in whatever avenue... it would be hard for this leech to prove that the registration was not done in bad faith, especially if it came after Amy's passing.

Not sure what the laws are like in the UK, but in the US usually there is some kind of protection in using someone's name, likeness and what not without family permission. One couldn't just create the "Michael Jackson Foundation" if it wasn't registered and expect go get away with it.

Interestingly enough a check of http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk doesn't show anything yet.

EDIT: The amywinehousefoundation.co.uk name has been registered though. Registered address is here on Google Streetview...http://tinyurl.com/a...housefoundation

[Querying whois.nic.uk]
[whois.nic.uk]

    Domain name:
        amywinehousefoundation.co.uk

    Registrant:
        007 Promotions

    Registrant type:
        Unknown

    Registrant's address:
        37 Mount Pleasant
        Harefield
        Uxbridge
        Greater London
        UB9 6BG
        United Kingdom

    Registrar:
        Namesco Limited t/a Namesco Ltd [Tag = NAMESCO]
        URL: http://www.names.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 26-Jul-2011
        Renewal date:  26-Jul-2013
        Last updated:  27-Jul-2011

    Registration status:
        Registration request being processed.

    Name servers:
        ns0.phase8.net
        ns1.phase8.net
        ns2.phase8.net

    WHOIS lookup made at 02:49:36 19-Aug-2011

EDIT2: This is probably the one they are after... amywinehousefoundation.org.uk Can't find the exact address in Google maps, morning sun blocking out the numbers!

[whois.nic.uk]

    Domain name:
        amywinehousefoundation.org.uk

    Registrant:
        sghuk

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        52 Lynton crescent
        widnes
        cheshire
        WA8 7NS
        United Kingdom

    Registrar:
        Daily Internet Services Limited t/a Daily.co.uk [Tag = DAILY]
        URL: http://www.daily.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 16-Aug-2011
        Renewal date:  16-Aug-2013
        Last updated:  16-Aug-2011

    Registration status:
        Registration request being processed.

    Name servers:
        ns1.daily.co.uk           195.26.90.11
        ns2.daily.co.uk           195.26.88.6

    WHOIS lookup made at 03:05:25 19-Aug-2011

Edited by SoulShadow, 19 August 2011 - 02:20 AM.

[Jayne]

Amy Winehouse Foundation.org was only registered on the 16th Aug I hope this is Mitch's registration. I thought he originally wanted 'The Amy Winehouse Foundation' this domain name is already registered under:

Domain ID: D162989532-LROR
Domain Name: THEAMYWINEHOUSEFOUNDATION.ORG
Created On:08-Aug-2011 15:39:48 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Aug-2011 15:57:48 UTC
Expiration Date: 08-Aug-2013 15:39:48 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Dotster, Inc. (R34-LROR)
Status: TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:DOT-2HDB7VGXOI4L
Registrant Name:Glyn Smith
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:69 Caversham Road
Registrant Street2:Kentish Town
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:England
Registrant Postal Code:NW5 2DR
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.08451306010
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+44.08451306020
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:dns@datanet.co.uk
Admin ID:DOT-709QXM194J3C
Admin Name:Operations Team
Admin Organization:DATANET.CO.UK Limited
Admin Street1:Aspen House, Barley Way
Admin Street2:Ancells Business Park
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Fleet
Admin State/Province:Hampshire
Admin Postal Code:GU51 2UT
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.08451306010
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+44.08451306020
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:dns@datanet.co.uk
Tech ID:DOT-GM4BZMUU6U89
Tech Name:Technical Team
Tech Organization:DATANET.CO.UK Limited
Tech Street1:Aspen House, Barley Way
Tech Street2:Ancells Business Park
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Fleet
Tech State/Province:Hampshire
Tech Postal Code:GU51 2UT
Tech Country:GB
Tech Phone:+44.08451306010
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+44.08451306020
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:dns@datanet.co.uk
Name Server:NS1.DATA.NET.UK
Name Server:NS2.DATA.NET.UK
Name Server:NS3.DATA.NET.UK
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
DNSSEC: Unsigned

[AMYstery]

hopefully, because the other domain names are registred by "007 promotions" and apparently these are notorious cybersquatters who tried to extort money from the Academy Awards in 2009 :

http://www.brandwise.../oscars100.html


.

[Cecilia]

It's one thing to try and get money out of a big corporation by registering a domain name they are likely to want to buy (not that I'm condoning this), but to try and extort money from what is to be a charity? That's just low.

[Venga]

For domain names, you have to start a dispute with WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organiziation). If this could apply to foundation names, I am not sure.

Although it would take some money to fight this in whatever avenue... it would be hard for this leech to prove that the registration was not done in bad faith, especially if it came after Amy's passing.

Not sure what the laws are like in the UK, but in the US usually there is some kind of protection in using someone's name, likeness and what not without family permission. One couldn't just create the "Michael Jackson Foundation" if it wasn't registered and expect go get away with it.

Interestingly enough a check of http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk doesn't show anything yet.

Someone called Stuart Gregson and a phone number! Silly sod!

EDIT: The amywinehousefoundation.co.uk name has been registered though. Registered address is here on Google Streetview...http://tinyurl.com/a...housefoundation

[Querying whois.nic.uk]
[whois.nic.uk]

    Domain name:
        amywinehousefoundation.co.uk

    Registrant:
        007 Promotions

    Registrant type:
        Unknown

    Registrant's address:
        37 Mount Pleasant
        Harefield
        Uxbridge
        Greater London
        UB9 6BG
        United Kingdom

    Registrar:
        Namesco Limited t/a Namesco Ltd [Tag = NAMESCO]
        URL: http://www.names.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 26-Jul-2011
        Renewal date:  26-Jul-2013
        Last updated:  27-Jul-2011

    Registration status:
        Registration request being processed.

    Name servers:
        ns0.phase8.net
        ns1.phase8.net
        ns2.phase8.net

    WHOIS lookup made at 02:49:36 19-Aug-2011

EDIT2: This is probably the one they are after... amywinehousefoundation.org.uk Can't find the exact address in Google maps, morning sun blocking out the numbers!

[whois.nic.uk]

    Domain name:
        amywinehousefoundation.org.uk

    Registrant:
        sghuk

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        52 Lynton crescent
        widnes
        cheshire
        WA8 7NS
        United Kingdom

    Registrar:
        Daily Internet Services Limited t/a Daily.co.uk [Tag = DAILY]
        URL: http://www.daily.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 16-Aug-2011
        Renewal date:  16-Aug-2013
        Last updated:  16-Aug-2011

    Registration status:
        Registration request being processed.

    Name servers:
        ns1.daily.co.uk           195.26.90.11
        ns2.daily.co.uk           195.26.88.6

    WHOIS lookup made at 03:05:25 19-Aug-2011

Someone called Stuart Gregson and a phone number!! Silly sod!

[Venga]

Stuart gregson
52 Lynton crescent
widnes, cheshire wa8 7ns
United Kingdom

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SGHERBALS.COM
Created on: 31-Jul-07
Expires on: 31-Jul-11
Last Updated on: 01-Aug-09

Administrative Contact:
gregson, Stuart pc49@ntlworld.com
52 Lynton crescent
widnes, cheshire wa8 7ns
United Kingdom
07950660561 Fax --

Technical Contact:
gregson, Stuart pc49@ntlworld.com
52 Lynton crescent
widnes, cheshire wa8 7ns
United Kingdom
07950660561 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

[SoulShadow]

I hope Mr. Stuart Gregson has the money to go before WIPO. Even if he does, he would stand little chance of winning the dispute.

Hope Mr. Winehouse is aware that he can challenge these "bad faith" registrations.

[SoulShadow]

Just read the article about the cyber-squatters and Oscars100.com.

Don't forget to "look right" before crossing the streets you tossers.

EDIT: Their losing battle against AMPAS can be found here... http://www.wipo.int/...d2009-1523.html

[Mama_Haze]

Any info we get on the registrants of domains that should belong to Mitch, please post them herein. Just left a message offering our help, although I think they have suspects lined up already.

Yeah... anything we find out, can we post it here please so I can direct Mitch to this thread?

Cheers all x

[Jayne]

Thank you for moving the info over I've just DM'd Mitch the contacts for the local paper if it is the fellow from Widnes as that is a neighbouring town to me.

[HugoRockz]

Meh... I wish I could help out somehow. You guys are doing so much for Amy and she must be very thankful for all that you guys have done!

[SoulShadow]

She lent our talents to us.... now it's our turn to lend whatever talents we have, back.

[SoulShadow]

007 Promotions also regged amywinehousefoundation.com

Here's another tosser for the pile:

amywinehousefoundation.org (no "the" in front of the domain name)

[whois.publicinterestregistry.net]

Domain ID:D162917531-LROR
Domain Name:AMYWINEHOUSEFOUNDATION.ORG
Created On:31-Jul-2011 03:16:05 UTC
Last Updated On:31-Jul-2011 03:16:06 UTC
Expiration Date:31-Jul-2012 03:16:05 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Fabulous.com Pty Ltd. (R133-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:fab-372-48e43ee1
Registrant Name:Anthony Webb-Jones
Registrant Organization:Anthony Webb-Jones
Registrant Street1:20 Temple Gardens
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Letchworth
Registrant State/Province:Hertfordshire
Registrant Postal Code:SG6 1EQ
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.1462632180
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:tonyjones@ntlworld.com
Admin ID:fab-372-48e43ee1
Admin Name:Anthony Webb-Jones
Admin Organization:Anthony Webb-Jones
Admin Street1:20 Temple Gardens
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Letchworth
Admin State/Province:Hertfordshire
Admin Postal Code:SG6 1EQ
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.1462632180
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:tonyjones@ntlworld.com
Tech ID:fab-372-48e43ee1
Tech Name:Anthony Webb-Jones
Tech Organization:Anthony Webb-Jones
Tech Street1:20 Temple Gardens
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Letchworth
Tech State/Province:Hertfordshire
Tech Postal Code:SG6 1EQ
Tech Country:GB
Tech Phone:+44.1462632180
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:tonyjones@ntlworld.com