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[tunisianswife]

I think the red flag was already there when just a coupl weeks or so before her kickoff of her tour, she was seen on video going into a store and downing a travel size bottle of alcohol on her way to check into rehab for a week just to make sure she was in 'top form' for her tour.

I've tried to figure out how she could have been left alone long enough to get into that shape. knowing her 'pitstop' on the way to rehab, did they not think she would try to make the same 'pitstop' before the show?

I think of the hairdresser, makeup artist, person that helps get her dressed...someone would have had to notice unless for whatever odd/off reason, she did her own hair/makeup/dressing for all her shows. maybe early on she insisted on doing her own hair/makeup for photo shoots, but now? I doubt it.

I'm not placing blame on anyone, just like the rest of you, I've gone over and over this whole scenario in my pinbrain trying to figure out the 'how'.

[kevd7]

i didn't know there was a video. i had some friends back in the day with addictions who did the same thing...got fucked up on the way to rehab.
I know where you're at, I just don't get it myself. Seems to me there were enough people on the payroll but obviously not the right people. And so called good chums?

[Rubi]

I found this drawing on Deviantart.com, and it truly broke my heart. This artist really captured what Amy was feeling that night. :'-(

Edited by Rubi, 06 September 2011 - 06:31 AM.

[Nigel Jam]

In the end of the day, I still feel like she didn't have good people around her. Even down to Mitch and Blake. She adored her father but from the outside looking in, I just don't get it. Her manager either. I understand Amy's going to live her life and if she's not working, you're not getting paid but is money that important?! I doubt they weren't dipping in her money anyways.

I agree with you on this I think her father may have only seen her as a performer and maybe avoided issues that mattered to her relating to other things. The Thursday before she died there is a photo of her sucking her thumb while leaning against her father - I mean what is that all about? There are other photos of her sucking her thumb?

[Elsie]

She did that quite often... It was her way of finding peace in the crowd surrounding her, imo.

[lolainas]

Believe me, it's the most painful thing to watch. I can't believe that there was people backstage letting this happen. This is complete non-sense. They have a responsibility to what happened to Amy, I think, but no one is taking the blame.

Yep, you've say it

[Cecilia]

I agree with you on this I think her father may have only seen her as a performer and maybe avoided issues that mattered to her relating to other things. The Thursday before she died there is a photo of her sucking her thumb while leaning against her father - I mean what is that all about? There are other photos of her sucking her thumb?

I don't think we should be too hard on Amy's dad. It must be incredibly difficult to know what to do when your child is ill, not the kind of illness there is a straightforward treatment for, but mental illness and addiction, with no easy cure and a lot of stigma surrounding it. I know my parents didn't know how to deal with my illness when I was going through my worst times, I would never blame them for this though. I think Mitch tried his best to do what he thought was right, even though it may not always have been the best way. As for avoiding issues and only seeing her as a performer, there was probably a great deal of denial on his part, but that's only natural. He just didn't want his girl to be ill, so concentrating on her achievements was probably important for him. I don't think he only saw her as a performer though, he obviously loved Amy and worried about her a lot.

[Amysanchorcat]

There so many points on here that hit the nail on the head, the girl did have depression, she was clean of hard drugs Thank God, but she struggled with the booze, she clearly was not happy, in Belgrade, Dubai, and belgrade must have had a drink and with valium or some kind of meds in her, nerves play play a big part, she always liked smaller venues, she was not happy and not ready in those shows, and there are alot of arseholes leeches around her wanting to milk her money, alot more could have been done to help her along the way, and fuck obligations and all that shit, her health and happiness is more important, mental health, recovery, but apparently not to the people pulling strings. I hear she was geared towards a Ska album this time, which she loved and was good at, why would she want to do another morbid album, sick fuckers who wanted her to do that insiders or whoever they were. There was so many highlights in tghis thread, i can't remember them all, just a few of them that stuck out, i agreed with, add to. She didn't give a fuck about anything, course she did deep down, she wasn't made of stone, she was a human being, a young fragile girl at the end of the day, she also once said, the more nervous and insecure she feels, the more she drinks and bigger her hive has to be, also her cats eye make up increased at times. She was still a great girl, very intelligent, loving, witty, caring, kind, nurturing, with a heart of gold and beautiful, but fragile soul, depression, drugs and being in love with as arsehole were the start of her problems, then the press, paps houned and ridiculed her, her every move. I do think at times, she just played up for them, taking the piss out of them, by giving them what they expected, wanted, she played them at times. At the end of the day, she was a total genuis and a special girl.

[Amy Jenna Harper]

I didn't inderstand the " story" with the hands.. :/

[Cherry Bomb]

I don't think we should be too hard on Amy's dad. It must be incredibly difficult to know what to do when your child is ill, not the kind of illness there is a straightforward treatment for, but mental illness and addiction, with no easy cure and a lot of stigma surrounding it. I know my parents didn't know how to deal with my illness when I was going through my worst times, I would never blame them for this though. I think Mitch tried his best to do what he thought was right, even though it may not always have been the best way. As for avoiding issues and only seeing her as a performer, there was probably a great deal of denial on his part, but that's only natural. He just didn't want his girl to be ill, so concentrating on her achievements was probably important for him. I don't think he only saw her as a performer though, he obviously loved Amy and worried about her a lot.

i think the same things...

[Cherry Bomb]

I found this drawing on Deviantart.com, and it truly broke my heart. This artist really captured what Amy was feeling that night. :'-(

you're right, and thats so sad

[tunisianswife]

I've had this notion in my mind for ages now. it just seems like she just did not look truly happy 2010=2011. It just seemed like every picture I would see, every performance, there was just something missing in her personality. Some cynics would say that it was the drugs that made her look happy back in 'the day' but there was something more to it. If you look at interviews and pics of her 2003,2004, (pre-blake) she looks upbeat.

I guess my point is, it just seems that post-blake, post-divorce just took whatever wind she had left in her sails completely out.

I can remember seeing pic after pic last year and there just seemed to be something missing. I'd think it was just me reading too much into it and then another day, another pic. even in the pics w/her smiling there is just something missing.

I've wondered if it was just that she had so had it with the paps that maybe that was it but the performances too. that smile just seemed to be gone. I would scrutinize her performances in Brazil and look for any smile...any....and ever so often you would catch a glimmer of something but just not the same.

probably the closest I've seen is her photo shoot in harper's w/the black trench coat. those are darling and she looks so playful. the pics and video of her w/Mitch at City Burlesque she seemed at ease, and at Alex' engagement party so perhaps it was that she just felt comfortable around family/close friends and I've got it all wrong.

even her opening of her collection at the fred perry store seemed like she was not the same.

any thoughts or have i read too much into these pics and performances this past year or so?

[Cherry Bomb]

i dont know,
i still belive thats a shame that she had to do that concert.
its a shame that someone could make it happened.
she wasent ok, she couldent perfor in that way,
thats make me feel mad every time i think about that concert,
thats make me feel mad as a fan and as an human person.
she doesnt wanted to do it, thats clear..

[Elsie]

I've had this notion in my mind for ages now. it just seems like she just did not look truly happy 2010=2011. It just seemed like every picture I would see, every performance, there was just something missing in her personality. Some cynics would say that it was the drugs that made her look happy back in 'the day' but there was something more to it. If you look at interviews and pics of her 2003,2004, (pre-blake) she looks upbeat.

I guess my point is, it just seems that post-blake, post-divorce just took whatever wind she had left in her sails completely out.

I can remember seeing pic after pic last year and there just seemed to be something missing. I'd think it was just me reading too much into it and then another day, another pic. even in the pics w/her smiling there is just something missing.

I've wondered if it was just that she had so had it with the paps that maybe that was it but the performances too. that smile just seemed to be gone. I would scrutinize her performances in Brazil and look for any smile...any....and ever so often you would catch a glimmer of something but just not the same.

probably the closest I've seen is her photo shoot in harper's w/the black trench coat. those are darling and she looks so playful. the pics and video of her w/Mitch at City Burlesque she seemed at ease, and at Alex' engagement party so perhaps it was that she just felt comfortable around family/close friends and I've got it all wrong.

even her opening of her collection at the fred perry store seemed like she was not the same.

any thoughts or have i read too much into these pics and performances this past year or so?

I think so too... Don't like to speculate but it's probably due to the fact she was heavily medicated in her recovery, same as Britney who also suffers from bipolar disorder. They sorted themselves out, you can see them smiling and looking content and performing well (Brazil) but that spark in the eyes is gone.